“Sorry, Vegans: Brussels Sprouts Like to Live, Too” (Robert Moyer)



Christmas dinner
after all the voices





“Sorry, Vegans: Brussels Sprouts Like to Live, Too” (New York Times)


Poem by Robert Moyer (seeĀ poet biographies). ReadĀ more by this poet.




  1. Laryalee

    Robert, your haiku takes on a whole new meaning after reading that article! (I’ll be imagining faint cries of “help” the next time I put potatoes on to boil, or stick broccoli in the microwave.) Thanks for sharing this (I think). ;)

  2. Laurence Stacey

    I agree with Lary. This is a stunning article and will make me pause the next time I stir fry vegetables! The haiku is also outstanding. The image is simple but deeply profound! Very nice!

  3. Editor

    Love the poem Bob – but I have a problem with the article actually. I think this is an article written to make meat eaters feel better – when clearly the issues are not being addressed (btw – I am a meat eater). The problem with meat in the contemporary world as I see it is not necessarily that we eat it, but the horrible conditions we keep animals in. It is about treatment and ethics, not morals. This article kinda takes the piss out of vegetarians and vegans, or at the very least, tries to imply they are just as “bad” as meateaters, which I think is a really shallow look at this issue.

    It’s like an article about how gay people can be bigotted too, as if this makes being bigotted to gay people okay. But this takes no notice of the fact that at the level of mainstream representation gay people are stereotyped in a way that can be very harmful to their self-image (particularly at the level of childhood development and teenage years). I think this article sneakily avoids the issues and tries to justify the lack of caring meateaters often put into their choice of meat (and the way it was treated).

    This is not the pressing ETHICAL issue that this article makes it out to be. In fact, I feel the article completely bypasses ethics entirely. All life is living – that much we know. And all live eats something else to live. Hence, it is about treatment, not about is it or isn’t it. It isn’t, or shouldn’t be about who is the most ethical, or the right kind of ethical (this just becomes morality). It should be how to start thinking ethically.

    Anyway – the article pissed me off. But I love the poem.


  4. Robert Moyer

    Visions of exploding cells occur with the microwave . Somehow on the scale of humane(vegane?)treatment, stir-fry seems quicker, less violent.
    Dick–I am as fascinated with your deconstruction of the article as I often am by”unearthings” in haiku. The levels of ethic behavior addressed here as you point out indeed go beyond the simple one you bring up, meat-eaters vs. veggie-eaters. The treatment of the food source does indeed seem the point; when I presented this at a recent reading someone pointed out the conscious addressing of the food source in preparation by various callings, Native americans the only one I now remember. I was certainly aware of the duality when writing. Thanks for the devolved thought that took me deeper.

  5. Editor

    Thanks Bob- I am glad my rant made sense. Yeah – I have heard of the ways in which other (ie. non Western) cultures treated their food after killing it. I remember hearing about one culture in which you lay with the animal after you had killed it and kind of hugged it or something. I always thought that was really beautiful. Killing is not the problem for me (although I am a pacifist, in terms of war and so forth). It is the WAY we have become disconnected from the act of killing (ie. because we are never called to kill things ourselves – I definitely think that actually having killed an animal helps in terms of coming to grips with this).

    Anyway – great poem. Great discussion.


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